Apologies for not being sure how to word the issue. Here is my setup.... Vixen 3.1u2 Pixelite 16 controller running 1.4.6 Advatek assistant 2.2.1 one universe per controller output - numbered 10-25 Each universe set up to start at channel 1 for 510 channels To my sequence from last year, [font=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif]I added an element called "sign" using "generic numbered group" with 160 x 2811 pixels, and set the [/font][font=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif]colour[/font][font=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif] handling for RGB and patched 480 channels.[/font] I then did some sequencing for this element. Every thing worked up to this point. I then added another element called "OL star" using "generic numbered group" with 80 - ink003 pixels and set the colour handling for RGB and patched 240 channels. I added a couple of chase effects to test the strip, and found that the sequence i did for the Sign, was also played on the "star" output, no matter if i have an effect setup for the "star" or not. I have deleted the star may times, called it something else, stopped/restarted vixen and the p/c numerous times over. Under setup display, I have tried to set the universe for unicast and multicast. I have patched the outputs many times over. I did try to configure the controller i had set in the "setup display" screen for the following (my elements are using output 9 and 10 on the pixelite) - output 1 - act - universe 10 - start 1 - size 510 output 2 - act - universe 11 - start 511 - size 510 output 3 - act - universe 12 - start 1021 - size 510 ~~ output 9 - act - universe 18 - start 4081 - size 510 output 10 - act - universe 19 - start 4591 - size 510 I patched the outputs to use these specific patch point, but got no output to the lights. Each element has something setup on the preview screen. The "sign" is on output 9 (universe 18) and the "star" is on output 10 (universe 19) of the pixelite. I have watched a bunch of youtube and vimeo' on every subject to do with vixen, scoured forums on the vixen site (DIYxmas) and on ACL, but haven't been able to find anything about this. If anyone has any ideas please advise as what is left of my hair is being extracted.