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Why can't I add an effect to the timeline.

Discussion in 'xLights (Nutcracker)' started by gnarmstr, Jul 21, 2016.

  1. gnarmstr

    gnarmstr Full Time Elf

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    I have just set up X-Lights and when I drag an effect to the time line it doesn't add it just disappears. Anyone know what I am doing wrong?

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    see how you go with adding some timing marks.
     
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    yep u need timing marks to b able to add
     
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    If you unselect the eye on the timing track you can drop effects without any timing marks.
     
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    Hey Jon. I was just discussing this last couple of days. Its currently setup with the idea that if a timing track is active you can only drop effect in the cells formed by timing marks. If you unselect all timing track with unchecking the little circle then I allow a free form drop anywhere on the grid and I default it to 1 second wide and then it can be dragged around or made longer. The problem this creates is we create a new sequence with a blank timing track so you can't drag effects down without unselecting it or creating timing marks. I've been considering changing the behavior to allow the same free type drop if you are outside the bounds of a timing mark but I need to test it out to see if there are any gotchas I haven't thought about.
     
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    gnarmstr Full Time Elf

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    Thanks guys, managed to get it working (sort of) I now know why I use Vixen, spending an hour with Xlights was extremely painful.
     
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    Do you think its any easier when I try to use Vixen3? I'm trying to run Matt Johnson's files and there is only a 25% chance it doesn't crash so I have to keep trying multiple times to get it to open. Everything looks complicated to me. But I'm not going to insult the program because I think all programs are like that when you first open them and know nothing about how to use it. In Vixen I feel like I'm always having to pop open different applications to do different tasks. I can guarantee that I could create and sequence a Layout from scratch in xLights quicker than the best Vixen user can do it in their program. But hey I thought we were friends now and you had to go and insult us.
     
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    Extremely painful? I thought you were a developer? Anyway though, I'm sorry, but xlights is not at all hard to use. There are some things that I would agree aren't that intuitive, but figuring those out are a manual away or a post on a forum.


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    OzAz Full Time Elf Generous Elf

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    Thanks for the tip keith and gil, i didn't know you could add an effect by unselecting timing track.

    PS. xlights (v .40) has crashed a couple of times when I've made the mistake of trying to add an effect without timing marks.

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    Gilrock Full Time Elf

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    The program doesn't crash on me but developers tend to know what not to do and don't always think of the things others might do. Unless you can show a repeatable scenario it's hard to fix it.
     
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    Gilrock Full Time Elf

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    By the way this question won't be asked after next release. I just fixed the code to allow a freeform 1 second drop if you are in-between timing marks or have no marks.
     
  12. OzAz

    OzAz Full Time Elf Generous Elf

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    Gil, yeah it's hard to make programs idiot proof.

    I'll see if I can repeat the crash and if I do I'll post bug report on xlights forum


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    I was just talking about today spending the last hour. I have always been open to other software and have used LOR and I do try Xlights every year. Sorry for insulting you, it's just my observation. It's not like I harped on like you.
     
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    Yep I can "harp on" with the best of 'em....lol. Maybe someday you guys can let me code one of my effects into Vixen then I can feel some pride in both programs.
     
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    We would love for you to code some effects in Vixen, will save me stealing them. Lol
     

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