First, hello to all you helpful people. Many great posts, answers and conversations. I gone from zero to gotta build now, in just a few days. Myself and what I doing........ I understand electricity and power loading very well, and have played in electronics. I did my share of programming in the late 80's and early 90, but have avoided since. I've also built my own computer from components (before thay were all put on the motherboard) I think I understand how a controller is to be used, but not yet to how they operate. I done some of my own electrical mechanical animation, but they are limited, and I want to (not jump, but) accelerate to the next level. I didn't inherit the ranch, so I need to be reasonable in overall layout cost and cost conscience on hardware. Layout space is also limited (unfortunately, I live in a overpriced residential track home) The price on Vixen 3.xx fits the budget and some great reviews too....so I guess my software is covered. Power, cabling, computer and FM broadcast is all covered as well. Sequencing is the dark side here! I wanting to control new WS2811 pixels, WS2811 strips and ws2812 strips, also add in existing standard 5050 LED, some 1 color, some white and a few RGB.....plus other standard LED Christmas lights. Wanting to use 12VDC for better power distribution, but 5VDC will be available for controllers, and ??? From what I have read, I should start with a SanDevice E682 for my pixels, and cascade to a Renard Plus TR24 for all the 5050 and other Christmas lights. This is likely an overkill for what I will have room for, but I think I'm better off with too much than not enough. I ordered some samples of lights and a cheap controller to test and learn. Need to get to a much higher level of controller/pixel knowledge before I spend my annual allowance to buy lights and controllers. Initial thoughts: have about 3000 led Christmas lights (About 500 got to new controller others always on), and 2500 LED strip light (1200 to new controller.) Additions will be a 2.75m pixel tree, 3 - 1m pixel trees, 4 - Arcs (3m strip ea) 12 Poles of various heights (1, 2, or 3m strip ea) 20m WS2812 to make a small waterfall. Wow, I think I on the right track....I finally wrote something down.