I thought I'd add my frustations to the LSP debate. It seems to be getting worse with 2.8 :-\ For all the new things that you can do there seems to be 3 things that it wont do properly. Heres what I've been getting all loud and throwing stuff about for for the last 2 weeks while I've been trying to put some sort of show together. Macros 1) - Only seem to work some times. eg. 1) Created a Plasma macro of about 4 secs on my Roof Layer, used the slime colour preset. All good Created another Plasma macro on the Windows layer (Same Timings) using the rainbow colour and LSP went and created various coloured ramp down effects right through to the end of the sequence (outside the macro and only on some of the channels) 2) Again created a macro on a layer same as above (all good) then tried to create a similar macro on another layer but using the colour pallette instead of the presets and it only draws Black effects?? I cant get a plasma macro to work with any other colour than the presets. Same with transitions, some work some just generate black effects? Timings Using touch mode to create timing marks, if I put one in the wrong spot when I try to move it it moves the 4th one to the left or 3rd one to the right??? This seems to happen every 3rd or 4th time. If I try to delete them using right click sometimes they delete, other times they don't so I have to move them instead?? Cut and Paste Ive givin up on cut and paste for Version 2.8, no matter what I try it always either pastes something entirely different to what I copy or it pastes it 4 cells to the right/left (take your pick) Controllers 3 times this has happened I click on one of my small 1 channel controllers and it dissappears, for some reason it merges with another controller. Ok so I must have dragged it in there, fair enough but how do you get it out with out deleting it?? Thankfully I save very often so I just close and restart to try and reset everything. I dont remember last year being this hard. :-\ Would love for someone to say "your doing this wrong or that wrong" would certainly speed up my sequencing thats for sure. Rant over!