[DIY] Custom built seed pixel icicle lights

Notenoughlights

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This will just be brief for now as I don't have any photos of the finished product up close yet.
Parts list at the bottom of this post.

I decided to build seed pixel icicles for two reasons.

1: After seeing the LED curtains that were on the market, I thought these could be adapted to become a form of small but very long matrix, as the icicle format wasn't the usual 4-5-7-6-5-4 for example. I still called them icicles because they were hanging and not fixed to create a grid pattern (The icicles I made did not have this drop pattern, they were all 10-10-10-10-10 drops).

2: Bullet pixel icicles were rather expensive and I needed a lot, they were also very big and bulky, harder to repair if there was a faulty pixel mid-string.

Designing phase

I needed a way that wouldn't involve cutting and soldering potentially 2600 or more bits of 100mm wire. I had a string of seed pixels on hand, and looked at how small the wires were, and tried to see if an RJ45 connector would fit on the end and crimp with a secure grip, it turns out, they worked perfectly. April 2023, I ordered 400 RJ9 crimp on connectors, 5000 seed pixels with return data wire (these had been a back and forward conversation with Knowshine to get this made properly from about January) and 500 RJ9 PCB mount sockets. At the time I was talking with Artacus on the WLED discord server You can read his build story here and we came up with an idea of PCB's to keep everything spaced correctly, he designed the PCB and I had 100 made and shipped to my door, these were just over $100 shipped.

Building

I discovered I had ordered 500 of the wrong type of RJ9 pcb socket, but it turns out that flipping the PCB over so the RJ9 socket was soldered onto the back of the PCB allowed everything to work just fine.
The icicles were constructed with 100mm spacing between each RJ9 socket, every second one was skipped and a jumper link soldered in place between data in/out on the PCB for the skipped socket.
The next part was finding a way to waterproof these but not make it clumsy and awkward to install.
My mind went to 25x25mm electrical ducting/trunking. This was a bad idea, the weight of the trunking made it very difficult to install with just one person, the fact I would have to drill out every single LED strand so it would hang out of the trunking, and the fact it was just ugly hanging on the front of the house, cause me to ditch that idea the same day I had it.

My next idea was to spray every PCB with conformal coating. That idea also went nowhere once I found out the price for the stuff, and how much I would need.

3rd time lucky, I had a look on Bunnings website, found the perfect thing for the perfect price, paint on waterproofing membrane, safe for water collection. I bought a 1L tub, threw in my multimeter probes to check it wasn't conductive just incase, it wasn't.

Next few weeks were spent painting 75 PCBs with 3 layers each, very messy process, I would suggest you do this outside or have plenty of paper.

In between soldering the PCB's I was cutting, crimping and soldering the data return to data out wires for approximately 500 icicle strands (I wanted some spares, and also had plans to extend and add icicles elsewhere later on)

Installation

I hung a few bare PCB's painted with the waterproofing compound out earlier than needed to check that they would perform OK in the sun/rain/wind/whatever nature were to throw at them.
Nothing happened that caused any negative effects. Yay, out went the rest.

I needed a way to keep water out of the RJ9 plugs should rain get carried by wind etc, as they were not waterproofed from below. Silicon grease was too expensive for the amount I needed, Lithium Grease was my next option, this was spread onto every plug before the icicle strand was clipped in.



Testing

The videos speak for themselves

Testing text on the icicles


Running them with a sequence for the first time


First installation basic testing



There were seed led failures during the 2023 Christmas lighting season, the RJ9 plugs/sockets made fixing a dead pixel one of the easiest repairs ever done on my light show, less than 10 seconds to get it all up and running again (after getting a ladder out and making my way through all the visitors)


Parts list:
PCB files:
View: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1h2z311PLfQ8Shdx0CPYPFvlwQIrODd8-/view?usp=drive_link

RJ9 crimp on plugs: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32874879176.html?
RJ9 solder in PCB sockets: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32797945817.html?
Seed pixels: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005186143268.html? <-- Be sure to select the 4 wire version with return data wire
Exterior grade Waterproofing paint on membrane: https://www.bunnings.co.nz/crommelin-1l-exterior-grade-brushable-waterproofer_p0961573
 
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I would like to modify the circuit board to use rj9's with a different orientation. Is the schematic file available for Eagle or Kicad or similar?
 
Good little write up @Notenoughlights !

Question, what was the writing layout of your seeds?

Thinking about the different types detailed in the thread below, I think it's worth calling out so people know what is compatible with your boards.
 
I would like to modify the circuit board to use rj9's with a different orientation. Is the schematic file available for Eagle or Kicad or similar?

Only what is there in the google drive link.

Good little write up @Notenoughlights !

Question, what was the writing layout of your seeds?

Thinking about the different types detailed in the thread below, I think it's worth calling out so people know what is compatible with your boards.

I'd love to tell you, but they're buried in the shed haha. I do know that the return data was on the very outside.
 
This will just be brief for now as I don't have any photos of the finished product up close yet.
Parts list at the bottom of this post.

I decided to build seed pixel icicles for two reasons.

1: After seeing the LED curtains that were on the market, I thought these could be adapted to become a form of small but very long matrix, as the icicle format wasn't the usual 4-5-7-6-5-4 for example. I still called them icicles because they were hanging and not fixed to create a grid pattern (The icicles I made did not have this drop pattern, they were all 10-10-10-10-10 drops).

2: Bullet pixel icicles were rather expensive and I needed a lot, they were also very big and bulky, harder to repair if there was a faulty pixel mid-string.

Designing phase

I needed a way that wouldn't involve cutting and soldering potentially 2600 or more bits of 100mm wire. I had a string of seed pixels on hand, and looked at how small the wires were, and tried to see if an RJ45 connector would fit on the end and crimp with a secure grip, it turns out, they worked perfectly. April 2023, I ordered 400 RJ9 crimp on connectors, 5000 seed pixels with return data wire (these had been a back and forward conversation with Knowshine to get this made properly from about January) and 500 RJ9 PCB mount sockets. At the time I was talking with Artacus on the WLED discord server You can read his build story here and we came up with an idea of PCB's to keep everything spaced correctly, he designed the PCB and I had 100 made and shipped to my door, these were just over $100 shipped.

Building

I discovered I had ordered 500 of the wrong type of RJ9 pcb socket, but it turns out that flipping the PCB over so the RJ9 socket was soldered onto the back of the PCB allowed everything to work just fine.
The icicles were constructed with 100mm spacing between each RJ9 socket, every second one was skipped and a jumper link soldered in place between data in/out on the PCB for the skipped socket.
The next part was finding a way to waterproof these but not make it clumsy and awkward to install.
My mind went to 25x25mm electrical ducting/trunking. This was a bad idea, the weight of the trunking made it very difficult to install with just one person, the fact I would have to drill out every single LED strand so it would hang out of the trunking, and the fact it was just ugly hanging on the front of the house, cause me to ditch that idea the same day I had it.

My next idea was to spray every PCB with conformal coating. That idea also went nowhere once I found out the price for the stuff, and how much I would need.

3rd time lucky, I had a look on Bunnings website, found the perfect thing for the perfect price, paint on waterproofing membrane, safe for water collection. I bought a 1L tub, threw in my multimeter probes to check it wasn't conductive just incase, it wasn't.

Next few weeks were spent painting 75 PCBs with 3 layers each, very messy process, I would suggest you do this outside or have plenty of paper.

In between soldering the PCB's I was cutting, crimping and soldering the data return to data out wires for approximately 500 icicle strands (I wanted some spares, and also had plans to extend and add icicles elsewhere later on)

Installation

I hung a few bare PCB's painted with the waterproofing compound out earlier than needed to check that they would perform OK in the sun/rain/wind/whatever nature were to throw at them.
Nothing happened that caused any negative effects. Yay, out went the rest.

I needed a way to keep water out of the RJ9 plugs should rain get carried by wind etc, as they were not waterproofed from below. Silicon grease was too expensive for the amount I needed, Lithium Grease was my next option, this was spread onto every plug before the icicle strand was clipped in.



Testing

The videos speak for themselves

Testing text on the icicles


Running them with a sequence for the first time


First installation basic testing



There were seed led failures during the 2023 Christmas lighting season, the RJ9 plugs/sockets made fixing a dead pixel one of the easiest repairs ever done on my light show, less than 10 seconds to get it all up and running again (after getting a ladder out and making my way through all the visitors)


Parts list:
PCB files:
View: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1h2z311PLfQ8Shdx0CPYPFvlwQIrODd8-/view?usp=drive_link

RJ9 crimp on plugs: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32874879176.html?
RJ9 solder in PCB sockets: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32797945817.html?
Seed pixels: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005186143268.html? <-- Be sure to select the 4 wire version with return data wire
Exterior grade Waterproofing paint on membrane: https://www.bunnings.co.nz/crommelin-1l-exterior-grade-brushable-waterproofer_p0961573


That looks mint!.

I having a hard time trying to find the PCBs from Knowshine. Do you need to contact them direct in order to get them made or whats the go there. The ones on JLCPCB are only 3 pin not 4 pin. Is knowshine also only a Ali express store?
 
That looks mint!.

I having a hard time trying to find the PCBs from Knowshine. Do you need to contact them direct in order to get them made or whats the go there. The ones on JLCPCB are only 3 pin not 4 pin. Is knowshine also only a Ali express store?
Knowshine didn't make the PCB's, the files for the PCB's are linked in the post you quoted.
 
Knowshine didn't make the PCB's, the files for the PCB's are linked in the post you quoted.
Ahh,.. Correct me if I'm wrong but are these files (same as the ones i downloaded rom WLED) are only for 3 pin PCD strips? Not the 4pin? (+,-.D1.DR)?
 
Ahh,.. Correct me if I'm wrong but are these files (same as the ones i downloaded rom WLED) are only for 3 pin PCD strips? Not the 4pin? (+,-.D1.DR)?
The files attached are the ones I used, they have a 4p4c plug that attaches, data in/data out V+ V- on the pads for those plugs, I don't know the exact order they are in.
 
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