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Discussion in 'Lights - Store Bought and Home Made' started by TheRichardsons, Nov 22, 2017.

  1. TheRichardsons

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    Hi everyone - please be kind I'm a new user!

    I know there's heaps of info on store bought lights - but wondering if any one has had any luck with this year's Big W lights?

    My wife bought a bunch LED MFC lights - I'm wondering if anyone has had any luck bypassing the controller?
    She'd like to make them stay on and use them with LOR controllers - but they're the annoying 2 wire out of the box (4 wires throughout)

    I have an image here.
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/drPTUmZgJDaUPMKv1

    Thanks for all the useful info on the forums!
    Al.
     
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    Do you know what voltage they put out on the light side? Because if they are only running red and black to the lights, looks like it's just running straight DC voltage on the light side of the control box? (I could be wrong, I haven't had a play with these ones)
     
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    I'll go plug a fresh set in and take a measurement -
     
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    AAH I love blinky lights :) Community Project Designer

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    If it's multifunction which it looks to be judging by the switch at the end of the pcb and it has 2 wires coming out then it's the same as the 2 wire 2 channel lights that have become common from Big W, Bunnings etc. Somewhere on ACL there's some posts about Lytworks or something like that and there's also a link to a video explaining how they work. To cut a long story short about the only way to get all the lights to work is to use the DMX2-18 boards that I make. I'm currently out of stock until probably Friday though.
     
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    So you would wire them up similar to a dumb RGB? Just have V+ in one of the RGB channels and run it that way????
     
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    Cool thanks AAH! Send me a message with details if you like.

    When I plug the multimeter in - it measures from -12 to + 12 DC
     
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    Alan's solution should work for you then, just need a 12v DC power supply and wire it up to one of the channels. Are you running them with LOR boxes?
     
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    We hope to use LOR - my wife is making up a bunch of core flute Christmas trees and gift boxes she'd like to animate.
    We've got 4 x 16 channel LOR boxes - been sitting in the carport getting dusty never been used!
     
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    Ok, do you know how to connect one of them to the DMX controller and make it all work?
     
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    Haven't used the DMX side of things yet - so will all be new to me!
    I do have 2 x CCR ribbons and controllers - unfortunately they're a bit damaged in transit while moving house.

    ** how do I remove the 6 post limit on ACL?
     
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    Last year I had to run a DMX dongle off my laptop as well as the LOR cable, but if you are going to put your LOR boxes into DMX mode they should daisy chain like that... I never ran my LOR boxes in DMX mode, just ran 2 usb connections off the laptop... and setup was a bit painful...
     
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    6 post limit?
    You can always jump into chat
     
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    If you are using the 240 volt ac controllers all you can do is turn the MFC on or off.
    No sequencing, no dimming. You will fritz the MFC and may even damage your controller
    If you are using a 16 channel dc controller such as the CMB16 and bypass the controller only half of the lights will illuminate as the MFC alternates the polarity to the wires so they can use 2 wires instead of 3.
    The only way to get them to function with a computer controlled controller is to use Allan's DMX18-2 with a power supply to suit the lights.
     

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