Last year I threw together a 4 foot PVC tree and all lit up it looked OK. I wasn't happy with the animation on it though. I ran the lights in three pie sections and I just wasn't happy with it really. This year I bought the stuff to do what is a 12' tree. Not as expensive as I thought, total was around 120 bucks without lights. I used two sections of black pipe, one 10' the other 4'. I then took a 2 foot section of 2" PVC and washed it into the ground for something to place the pipe in. Turned out nicely I think!