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SmartAlec's on line store - names please

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  1. tuppetsdad

    tuppetsdad Funding & Tech Support

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    Hear a rumour that SmartAlec has migrated to China so he can open his own Alibaba store in competition to Ray.

    seems like he will be stocking
    - Crap strips with only each third LED working intermittently so you don't need a controller.
    - Blow Ups and other aids .... not for the young
    - Walking frames with integrated LED's
    - And lots more useful stuff

    Terms:
    Payment 120% in advance
    12 - 42 weeks delivery on all items
    No refunds
    Warranty - your kidding

    So we can help Alec in this great new venture we need your suggestions for:

    Ideas for the store name and logo
    Suggestions for what Alec should stock
    Excuses he can give Leanne on why he is taking so long to come back.

    Over to you ACL members...
     
  2. Kaden

    Kaden Pixels! I need more pixels!

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    And to think you aren't in charge of marketing your own display!

    Names......... What about "String Lights Using Trees" or "Decorators In Christmas Knowledge". They would make great acronyms........

    Or Maybe a mod should just delete my post.
     
  3. GoofyGuy

    GoofyGuy Guest

    "Smiles Highlighted In Technology"?

    Its all good if I get to pay less for more
     
  4. smartalec

    smartalec Im a SmartAlec what can i say! Community Project Designer

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    I lurk for a couple of days an the kids start to play. :D

    Well i do have a online store, selling decent china gear not the non working crap (that TD donated)
    I like to test trial all products for over a week, so that means little stock (but decent stock)

    this time of season i still watch the happenings of ACL, but i like to do some electronics at the start of the year.

    the shop name is SmartAlec's Lights http://www.smartaleclights.com/shop/
    the price's might be expencive for people here, but for normal non-led people there a bargin price.

    I do like your payment terms TD, if only everyone was willing to pay extra like that ;)
    Ps. I dont need an excuse with leeanne she's busy with her online scrapbooking store (lots of stock)

    Well time to go back to lurking..
    Im around if needed, but with all the new people trained up on pixels an RGB, i might get to relax
     
  5. z_special

    z_special Full Time Elf

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    In good faith I visited Alec's store, seems as though free shipping is included. Wonder if that includes Canada? Cause at those prices I think it should

    Zane
     
  6. Beacy

    Beacy It's so much better on the dark side

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    If I ring the phone number does the cute chick answer the phone - as per picture on web page?
     
  7. fasteddy

    fasteddy I have C.L.A.P Global Moderator Generous Elf

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    You may want to investigate if you require SAA Electrical safety approval to legally sell this stuff in Australia. This may come under the below SAA category and if something was to happen in the future you may be liable

    Decorative Lighting Outfit
    An electrical appliance which —
    (a) is for decorative, display or illumination purposes;
    (b) is portable;
    (c) consists of –
    (i) lamps (including Light Emitting Diodes “LED” types) or lampholders interconnected by flexible cord of less
    than 2.5 mm cross-sectional area; or
    (ii) lamps (including Light Emitting Diodes “LED” types) within a flexible enclosure;
    (d) may be integral with a frame or similar support;
    and includes —
    (e) any integral power supply or control device.
    Class Specification: AS/NZS 60598.2.20


    So do your homework before selling to the public, you may get around this if you are selling hobby and DIY stuff, but i would find out first. Selling electrical goods is a bit different to selling scrapbook products as there are certain regulations that need to be followed.
     
  8. fasteddy

    fasteddy I have C.L.A.P Global Moderator Generous Elf

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    For further info take a look here http://www.saaapprovals.com.au/frequently_asked_questions.html

    The first question is what grabs my attention

    1. What are the requirements for importing and/or selling electrical products?

    All electrical equipment imported and sold in Australia must be proven to be electrically safe. Specific items (declared or prescribed electrical products) must also have SAA Approval Certification and be marked to show compliance with this requirement.

    The fact that these lights seem to fall under the below category makes me believe that its not just a simple case of opening up a store and selling these products.

    Decorative Lighting Outfit
    An electrical appliance which —
    (a) is for decorative, display or illumination purposes;
    (b) is portable;
    (c) consists of –
    (i) lamps (including Light Emitting Diodes “LED” types) or lampholders interconnected by flexible cord of less
    than 2.5 mm cross-sectional area; or
    (ii) lamps (including Light Emitting Diodes “LED” types) within a flexible enclosure;
    (d) may be integral with a frame or similar support;
    and includes —
    (e) any integral power supply or control device.
    Class Specification: AS/NZS 60598.2.20
     
  9. Kaden

    Kaden Pixels! I need more pixels!

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    uh oh fun police :)


    Its good advice though, it seems to be all low voltage so approval may be straight forward (or not required?).
     
  10. fasteddy

    fasteddy I have C.L.A.P Global Moderator Generous Elf

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    I have the Australian standard AS/NZS 60598.2.20.2002 here and the scope says these are for basically any lighting chain either in series or parrallel or both with voltages not exceeding 250 volts. I cant say if you need to be covered or not but ignorance is no defense in these situations so i would find out first before committing to much effort
     
  11. DeeJai

    DeeJai Is that Magic Smoke?!?

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    what about Cheap Lighting and Plugs
    or Creating Rice And Paper
    or Lights Are Musical Exhebitionists
    or ...... Ohh i dont know, thats enough from me.. haha
     
  12. smartalec

    smartalec Im a SmartAlec what can i say! Community Project Designer

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    No Free Postage, i just have'nt installed the postage module yet..
    Eddy i understand the issue i might have selling the 240v floods with the aussie rules.
    Im pretty sure them rules dont apply for low voltage gear, (i guess i have studying to do) :-\

    beacy if you ring the number, you'll get me or the miss's saying hello - sorry for the disappointment with that sexy chick idea, the pic came with the shopping cart system..lol

    I will never be as cheap as buying directly from ray, postage would kill me there.
    matt i did have rays plugs up for sale, but i think i used all the stock myself.

    I dont think my shop will be popular for ACL people, but for the local towns around here think them prices are super cheap.
     
  13. kane

    kane Dedicated Elf

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    Changing the topic from Alec-Hassling slighly, but I'd always recommend offering free shipping on any online store.. At the very least, for orders over $30 or something..

    You obviously need to factor it into your prices, but you will not believe how much of a difference it makes to people.

    One of our clients was getting very few sales (one a week), but as soon as she offered free postage, she started averaging a sale a day. And surprisingly, the items she was selling were quite expensive ($100/each), so the $10 postage charge shouldn't have been an issue, but for some reason it was.

    Another thing to include is testimonials. Was speaking to another client who sold wedding bands online - when they introduced personal testimonials on the site, their sales doubled.. Not sure what it is, but perhaps it gives the site less of a templated "website in a box" feel to one with actual people..

    And it goes without saying - try to get rid of obvious stock photography, and make sure that any of the standard content pages (about us, contact us, etc,), are populated with actual information, and hopefully information that will give the user a warm fuzzy feeling that they're dealing with a local friendly person, rather than a faceless company.. And Alec, without trying to sound condescending, I'd recommend you ask a few people to look over your content, as obvious spelling and grammar errors are a big turn-off for a lot of people.
     
  14. smartalec

    smartalec Im a SmartAlec what can i say! Community Project Designer

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    Thanks kane,
    Personal testimonials is something i also use when i test out products myself.. so i will be adding that module

    free shipping does hook people into buying, i know from personal experance

    warm fuzzies hey.. umm how about some of the heat were getting.. some might like that more.. :D

    so edit the photo's for what real life shots of them in use or something..?

    cool, a funny post from TD is realy turning into a information session.. cool
     
  15. kane

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    It was more the photos that you get as part of your "off the shelf" shopping cart software (like the girl next to the phone number), which are usually referred to as "stock" photos. The more you can make it look less like an off the shelf product, the better - makes it look more professional.

    The actual photos of your items are a different story, but I'd say that the more photos you can put on, the better - pictures tell a thousand words so you'll never cause issues by adding extras.
     

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